Cookies that Age Gracefully…More Gracefully Than Us? With Guest Ayelet Waldman

Marissa’s guest this week is Ayelet Waldman, the NYTimes best-selling author, and creator and writer behind the Netflix Emmy-award winning series “Unbelievable.” Unbelievable is also the range of topics Marissa and Ayelet cover as they chewy oatmeal cookies: psychedelics, how to use MDMA to keep your marriage on sure footing (Ayelet is  married to author Michael Chabon), real gratitude vs smug-gratitude, great books to read, and whether society allows women to age gracefully or if the whole concept is a farce. And jumpsuits. The secret behind jumpsuits. All in one episode.