On this episode, our experts Edward Luce of the Financial Times, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center and Kori Schake of IISS reveal the secret and disturbingly advanced plans of Donald Trump to blow up the international system that America helped create after World War II. It’s farther along than you might think…and scary as can be. Which leads back to the one dominant question that arises while discussing Trump–is he evil or is he just really stupid? Rosa offers a compromise. Tune in to find out what it is.