Will the Real George Santos Please Stand Up? – Full Member Version

Marissa’s guest on the podcast is investigative journalist Marisa Kabas, who has recently dedicated herself to learning everything there is to know (and wonder at) about George Anthony DeVolder Santos Schwarzenegger, or whatever name he is going by today. Not surprisingly, the conversation turns to a discussion of shamelessness: the good kind and the bad kind, and why this is the year to embrace positive shamelessness. Marissa also works on a recipe for very gooey chocolate chip cookies.